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Article: 43750
Subject: Re: Engineering Samples for free?
From: nweaver@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas Weaver)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 00:06:22 +0000 (UTC)
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
In article <ad8apd$njk$1@paris.btinternet.com>,
Leon Heller <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Also whether there is any difference in function/ quality ( in terms
>> of perfomance or features or testability ) between engineering samples
>> and production samples.
>
>They should be identical, unless they are pre-production units. I've been
>caught out by this, before now.

Then again, they may not.  We have a bunch of ES VirtexE 2000s (to do
a student board), 4 of the 8 DLLs don't work on em.
-- 
Nicholas C. Weaver                                 nweaver@cs.berkeley.edu

Article: 43751
Subject: Re: Engineering Samples for free?
From: "MikeJ" <mikejNO SPAM@freeuk.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 01:15:42 +0100
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
My 2 Euro worth :

ES chips cost Lots more and often don't work properly.

<end Xilinx V2 rant>
"Leon Heller" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ad8apd$njk$1@paris.btinternet.com...
>
> "Rajat Karol" <rajatkarol@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:a78f7c6d.0205292217.78041f01@posting.google.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wanted to know whether Xilinx or Altera provides engineering samples
> > for free?
>
> I got a sample CPLD (one of the little ones) from Altera. I don't think I
> requested it. I haven't got round to trying it yet, though. I might make a
> PCB for it at home. I don't think Xilinx or Altera give away samples of
> their larger chips on a routine basis, although I have got Altera samples
> from my Altera distributor in the past.
>
>
> >
> > Also whether there is any difference in function/ quality ( in terms
> > of perfomance or features or testability ) between engineering samples
> > and production samples.
>
> They should be identical, unless they are pre-production units. I've been
> caught out by this, before now.
>
> >
> > Also are engineering samples available at a lesser rate ??
>
> Not generally. They often cost more, because of the small quantities.
>
> Generally, if you want free samples you are best off approaching your
> distributor and seeing if they can help, or a manufacturer's  FAE, if you
> know one.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller, G1HSM leon_heller@hotmail.com
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
> Low-cost Altera Flex design kit: http://www.leonheller.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Article: 43752
Subject: Re: stability/timing problem on reset
From: "MikeJ" <mikejNO SPAM@freeuk.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 01:23:08 +0100
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
You really need to register input signals if you don't know what clock they
came from, and even then you are into metastability probs.
Do a search on this group as this has been covered before.
I have done a few VME designs in the past, if you are really stuck mail me
and I'll elaborate.
Mike
p.s. never underestimate the problems async reset can cause in a sync
system!
"Jerre" <duvister@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d4b00a9.0205220640.2961a36@posting.google.com...
> Hello to everybody,
>
> I'm working on a design containing a xilinx 4000 series FPGA (Very
> old, I know).However recently we had some problems, especially on
> reset.  It sometimes get's into an unwanted state after a reset or
> power on.  Put the same code in a spartan and the problem dissapears.
>
> The FPGA is used as a VME controller (slave device on bus)and it takes
> directly the signals from the bus (like SYSRES, DTACK, data strobes,
> ...), without registering or making them synchronous.  Would that be a
> part of my problem?  I'm pretty new into this business and have heard
> several stories of first double registering your signals before acting
> on them.  However, I never heard the whole story.
>
> Maybe it's also because the edge of the signals is not perfectly
> straight?  Somebody else told me to use a double flip flop but when
> and how?
>
> Anyone out there who could clarify some things?
>
> Thx,
>
> Jerre



Article: 43753
Subject: Re: Why there is no clear signal in BRAM?
From: "MikeJ" <mikejNO SPAM@freeuk.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 01:28:17 +0100
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Agree totally. Never needed a clear yet.

"Muzaffer Kal" <kal@dspia.com> wrote in message
news:6un4fugkq4rmakrm582icpkm0ddl9f86b9@4ax.com...
> On 27 May 2002 06:05:42 -0700, muthu_nano@yahoo.co.in (Muthu) wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >In virtex-II block RAMs, reset signal is there. that will reset the
> >output bus value to all "zeros" after giving reset. But it is
> >understood that, it will not affect the Memory cell contents.
> >
> >In most of the situations, during running time we need to clear the
> >memory contents. But there is no provision, in BRAM to clear the
> >memory contents of the BRAM. So, we have to waste the more memory
> >write cycles, to make the memory cell contents to zeros.
> >
> >My question is: Why there is no clear bit in BRAM? Is that possible or
> >not?
>
> Virtex-II block rams are regular SRAM blocks which have a very high
> density. Putting a reset pin into each cell would significantly cut
> down on the density so it is undesirable.
> If you do a careful design, you don't need to clear memories. Try to
> communicate between the state machines which write to and read from
> the brams so that no location is read from before it was written. If
> your state machines are reset and synchronized, you should almost
> never need cleared memory.
>
> Muzaffer Kal
>
> http://www.dspia.com
> ASIC/FPGA design/verification consulting specializing in DSP algorithm
implementations



Article: 43754
Subject: Re: LFSR with 2^n instead of (2^n)-1
From: David R Brooks <daveb@iinet.net.au>
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 08:38:27 +0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
What you have created is a 2-bit Johnson counter. That is, N register
bits, with Bit(0) <= not Bit(N-1);
If you try the exercise with more than 2 bits you will find a Johnson
counter has 2N states, not 2^N. Of course, when N=2, these are
identical. It also (for longer registers) has many illegal states:
actually every state other than those with a single contiguous block
of '1's, and the rest '0', is illegal.

jetmarc@hotmail.com (jetmarc) wrote:

:Hi.
:
:I'm working on an address generator for a DMA controller in FPGA.
:To save logic resources, I want to use non-sequential addresses.
:Instead, I want to use an LFSR.
:
:The range is 512 byte, or 2^9.  The great program "LFSR Testbench"
:calculates a variety of possible solutons for this problem.  However,
:the silicon-efficient solutions have a cycle of (2^n)-1.  I need
:the whole 2^n to move all 512 bytes.
:
:Since I am new to LFSRs, I checked the theory with pencil and
:paper with a 2-bit LFSR.  "LFSR Testbench" suggests:
:
:      feedback := LFSR(1) xor not(LFSR(0));
:      LFSR(0) <= feedback;
:      LFSR(1) <= LFSR(0) xor feedback;
:
:My pencil & paper work suggests:
:
:      bit1 <= bit0;
:      bit0 <= not(bit1);
:
:to count through 00,01,11,10.  The latter solution uses less
:logic gates, and more important: less WIDE logic inputs.
:
:With 9 bits, LFSR Testbench suggests a solution with 8 inputs
:in one logic equation.  This kills FPGA logic area.
:
:Is it possible to come up with a similar solution for 2^9 like
:I did for 2^2?  I ask because I don't want to spend 2 days
:trying, when it's known to be impossible.
:
:Marc


Article: 43755
Subject: Re: LFSR with 2^n instead of (2^n)-1
From: jetmarc@hotmail.com (jetmarc)
Date: 31 May 2002 17:40:53 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
John_H <johnhandwork@mail.com> wrote in message news:<3CF7A8EB.9A9D52F8@mail.com>...
> To implement a 9-bit LFSR for the DMA address generator, you need 9
> register bits.  To implement a 9-bit counter you need 9 register bits.
> No difference in logic resources from the flop standpoint.   Since you
> need all 9 bits in parallel you can't use a Xilinx SRL16 primitive to
> help save resources.
> 
> So...  What device architecture are you working with such that the
> counter takes up more resources?

Atmel AT40K.  The design is very complex and won't fit if I don't
save where possible.

> Efficiency is great but at what cost?

Fit versus no fit?

Well, maybe XILINX is better at FPGA, but Atmel has chips that combine
FPGA with their nice microcontroller in one chip.

Article: 43756
Subject: Re: IO simulations
From: Russell <rjshaw@iprimus.com.au>
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 02:37:31 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Austin Lesea wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Sorry you feel this way.
> 
> But as you well point out, keeping our hard earned IP confidential is only part
> of the issue.  The other part is the support.
> 
> Right now our support is 'world class'.  It doesn't happen by accident.  What
> you suggest would fragment resources, cause more customer issues.
> 
> We are daily trying to make FPGAs a "pushbutton" experience for the average
> user.

I hope that pushbutton effort doesn't extend to PAR. Manual floorplanning
is the reason i won't go back to pushbutton designs except for random logic
type state machines and things. More effort should be put into the floorplanner
tools.

> My holy grail is to reduce the ever more difficult signal integrity
> issues to something that is closer to the experience of the HDL to bitstream
> flow, and less something accomplished by "experts" with magic wands.
> 
> There is no such thing as 'unsupported' documentation.  Even these emails have
> led to support issues.
> 
> If this philosophy (in part) helps create a market for Xilinx experts, who make
> a living from consulting in the (more) optimal use of the FPGAs, I would hardly
> lobby to have Xilinx put them out of business.....

Article: 43757
Subject: Re: Director of FPGA Design - New York City
From: "Austin Franklin" <austin@dark98room.com>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 23:37:02 -0400
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And they are expecting ALL this experience from someone who has ONLY THREE
YEARS of job experience?  And, as a sign of our times, they consider someone
who's been "on the job" for 1.5 years not a job hopper...  Sigh.  Most of my
contracts last longer than that.

Austin

"Chris Lewis" <Chris@n2tech.com> wrote in message
news:3cf555e4.22781447@news.qwest.net...
> Director of FPGA Design
>
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>
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>
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>
> Ideally, we need you to be a digital systems designer, experienced
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>
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>  Understanding of the software complexity and ability to co-design
> software and hardware.
>  Experience in using all leading FPGA tools, synthesis and simulation
> tools
>  Experience in developing mapping, place and route algorithms, with
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>
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Article: 43758
Subject: Re: LFSR with 2^n instead of (2^n)-1
From: John_H <johnhandwork@mail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:07:12 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
It looks like the AT40K architecture would efficiently use 9 cells to
produce a 9 bit counter.  There isn't a Xilinx equivalent "direct in"
that I can see in the cell structure so a minimum of one LUT would be
used for each register in an LFSR.  If you use one LUT for a single
signal pass through, the other can only give you two input functions
with the leftover resources.  Are you thinking of implementing an LFSR
in a different fashion?  Each cell can provide a counter bit and the
carry to the next stage so "really wide" functions aren't needed.  Are
you up against the wall for speed as well and this is why the tradeoff? 
you might be able to speed things up a tiny bit by using a slight look
ahead carry scheme (only 2 bit chunks).

I can't figure a nice LFSR approach or alternative counting scheme to
help free up some resources.

If you have leftover RAM elements, there might be a creative way of
manipulating those to get your results.

It looks like the IO elements are driven directly by the cells so you
cant run a dedicated address counter through alternative resources
there.

I hope you get all the functionality you need into your part!

Good luck.


jetmarc wrote:
> 
> John_H <johnhandwork@mail.com> wrote in message news:<3CF7A8EB.9A9D52F8@mail.com>...
> > To implement a 9-bit LFSR for the DMA address generator, you need 9
> > register bits.  To implement a 9-bit counter you need 9 register bits.
> > No difference in logic resources from the flop standpoint.   Since you
> > need all 9 bits in parallel you can't use a Xilinx SRL16 primitive to
> > help save resources.
> >
> > So...  What device architecture are you working with such that the
> > counter takes up more resources?
> 
> Atmel AT40K.  The design is very complex and won't fit if I don't
> save where possible.
> 
> > Efficiency is great but at what cost?
> 
> Fit versus no fit?
> 
> Well, maybe XILINX is better at FPGA, but Atmel has chips that combine
> FPGA with their nice microcontroller in one chip.

Article: 43759
Subject: communication between two RC100
From: lktan24@hotmail.com (lktan)
Date: 31 May 2002 21:33:23 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi everyone,
I need to communicate between two Celoxica RC100 boards by writing
code in Handel-C.Can anyone advise me on how to get started? I know I
need the output information of the first board to be input to the
second board but how should I implement in code? in terms of bus?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,
lktan

Article: 43760
Subject: Re: LFSR with 2^n instead of (2^n)-1
From: Rick Filipkiewicz <rick@algor.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 09:58:12 +0100
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>


jetmarc wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I'm working on an address generator for a DMA controller in FPGA.
> To save logic resources, I want to use non-sequential addresses.
> Instead, I want to use an LFSR.
>

If DMA cycle timing and the AT40K permit could you consider an old
fashioned ripple counter? It would  only use 9 FFs, trading logic for
routing resources.



Article: 43761
Subject: WTB: Insight SpartanXL Demo board
From: spam_hater_7@email.com (Spam Hater)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 14:07:12 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
WTB: Insight SpartanXL Demo board

Must be XL.  The SpartanII demo board is readily available from their
web site.  Other demo boards use a very small Spartan.

TIA

Article: 43762
Subject: CMOS camera
From: "Roger King" <roger@king.com>
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 14:08:14 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
I want to try to interface a digital CMOS camera with a computer. Anyone
thinks this is possible by using an FPGA chip from the Max 7000 Series? For
example. The CMOS camera will be connected to the FPGA then into the
microcontroller or computer? I don't know where to start!

I would appreciate your responses. Thank you.





Article: 43763
Subject: chipscope: Tips to get more speed
From: "H.L" <alphaboran@yahoo.no-spam.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 17:20:18 +0300
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello all,
I use the Chipscope for 3 days now, seems like a good tool as you told me. I
used some ILAs @ 75Mhz and everything was fine. Now I am trying to use some
ILAs @ 155MHz (thats exactly the xilinx's upper limit) but I get timing
errors during PAR. I reduced the number of the timing errors by manual
floorplanning (that was tough!) and I add one more pipeline stage. I also
noticed that by using triggers as small as possible you get better results
(all triggers are of basic type). With the above I succeeded to reach 144MHz
but I need some more speed.  Has anybody another suggestions?

Best Regards,
Harris

p.s: ILAs' failing paths have 5 levels of logic (the max in my whole
design), is there any way that can lead me in logic level reduction?





Article: 43764
Subject: Re: Timing Analyzer lockups
From: hamish@cloud.net.au
Date: 01 Jun 2002 14:36:44 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
ae <> wrote:
> The default number of failed constraints reported by the timing software is three paths.  However, there are many more paths that are failing.  I have incrementally bumped up the number of failing paths to be reported each time notcing a longer time to return results.  Eventually, the number of paths I request appears to lock the system.  

Have you tried TRCE instead of timing analyzer?

It seems to be faster to do what is more or less the same job.


Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>

Article: 43765
Subject: Re: place and route simulation time
From: allan_herriman.hates.spam@agilent.com (Allan Herriman)
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 17:08:10 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Fri, 31 May 2002 18:28:59 +0200, "Falk Brunner"
<Falk.Brunner@gmx.de> wrote:

>"Allan Herriman" <allan_herriman.hates.spam@agilent.com> schrieb im
>Newsbeitrag news:3cf6e314.346890862@netnews.agilent.com...
>
>> I still find synthesiser bugs even in purely synchronous designs.  I
>> don't think gate level sims are going to go away any time soon.
>
>Yes, there are still synthesizer bug. But would you hunt down such a bug
>with a timing simulation of a full FPGA?
>I woudnt.

I wouldn't do a timing simulation if I was hunting for a functional
bug.

Full FPGA: definitely.  Some bugs don't show up when the modules are
simulated one at a time.

>Ray Andraka proposed to do post-mapping simulation to veryfy the sythesis
>result, since a post-maping is (much?) faster than post P&R.

Why is it faster?  The simprim blocks take most of the simulation
time, and these will be the same post map and post PAR.
(Note that you *don't* have to load the SDF if you are doing a post
PAR functional simulation.)

Allan.

Article: 43766
Subject: Re: place and route simulation time
From: nweaver@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Nicholas Weaver)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 17:18:03 +0000 (UTC)
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
In article <3cf8fc35.13519329@netnews.agilent.com>,
Allan Herriman <allan_herriman.hates.spam@agilent.com> wrote:
>>Ray Andraka proposed to do post-mapping simulation to veryfy the sythesis
>>result, since a post-maping is (much?) faster than post P&R.
>
>Why is it faster?  The simprim blocks take most of the simulation
>time, and these will be the same post map and post PAR.
>(Note that you *don't* have to load the SDF if you are doing a post
>PAR functional simulation.)

I think because you end up ignoring all the timing info (which ends up
being pretty substantial post-routing.
-- 
Nicholas C. Weaver                                 nweaver@cs.berkeley.edu

Article: 43767
Subject: NIOS GNUPro tool chain + SDK for Linux
From: Chris Zimman <chris@archie-bunker.cryptoapps.com>
Date: 01 Jun 2002 13:09:57 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

I hadn't found this anywhere (forgive the redundancy if someone else
already did), so I put together a port of the NIOS GNU Pro environment
for Linux.

There are three files available:

http://www.cryptoapps.com/~chris/NIOS/nios-linux-src.tar.bz2

This is the source for the GNU Pro tool chain and SDK.  I some simple
instructions (README.FIRST) on compiling and installing the tool chain
and SDK.

For those that would rather have binaries:

http://www.cryptoapps.com/~chris/NIOS/nios-linux-bin.tar.bz2

This will extract to /usr/local/cross/nios

To use, add /usr/local/cross/nios/bin to your PATH and set NIOSGNU to
/usr/local/cross/nios

A compiled up version of the SDK can be found at:

http://www.cryptoapps.com/~chris/NIOS/nios-linux-sdk.tar.bz2

I'll be adding more source sometime in the (hopefully near) future.

--Chris








Article: 43768
Subject: Clock double trigger problem
From: jetmarc@hotmail.com (jetmarc)
Date: 1 Jun 2002 20:53:38 -0700
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi.  I'm prototyping a new design with AT40K FPGA and
CompactFlash memory card.  The CompactFlash is being
talked to in the "common memory mode", meaning that
the data is not addressed with ADDRx lines but read by
consecutive read cycles to one single address.

The CompactFlash card has an internal address pointer
that increments after each read cycle.

My circuit doesn't work.  After reading 512 bytes I
find that some are missing, and the buffer is padded
with dummy bytes.

Obviously the CompactFlash card has taken a few of
the read cycles for two (double-clocked on the falling
/OE edge), so that its internal address has reached
the end while my FPGA was still reading more data.

I spent hours already, trying to remove this problem.
But no avail.   I tried all software options that the
AT40K gives (io pin slew rate, pullup/pulldown).  I
added external RC filters on the /OE, /CS, /WE pins
(making the problem worse).  I inserted schmitt trigger
'244 bus drivers in the signal path.

On the scope, the signals look OK, but it is only a
5ns/200MHz model.

The problem only occurs when there is a lot of change
on the 8bit data bus.  Reading a sector with all 0x00
or all 0xff is possible (without errors).  The data
signals are far away from the clock signals (/OE, /CS,
/WE) both on the (short) cable and the FPGA pinout.

The same card (with same cable) has previously worked
fine on another prototype.  That prototype used 5.0v
(while the new one uses 3.3V) and connected the CF card
to an ATmega microcontroller (while the new one has an
AT40K FPGA).

I believe that the AT40K IO pin driver generates noisy
signals, at least more noisy than the ATmega.  I don't
know how to fix that.  Schmitt trigger buffers didn't help.

Do you have an idea what I can try to fix it?

Marc

Article: 43769
Subject: Looking for FPGA board with USB interface
From: "Kyle Davis" <kyledavis@nowhere.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 04:17:16 GMT
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Hi folks,
I am looking for FPGA board that use USB port or IEEE 1394 (Firewire) for
downloading to the chip. My notebook only comes with USB and IEEE1394 port
so using FPGA board that only use parallel or serial port won't work!

Thanks in advance!




Article: 43770
Subject: Re: Clock double trigger problem
From: "Sir Charles W. Shults III" <aichip@cfl.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 04:17:51 GMT
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    This sounds like a bypass or crosstalk problem
    Is the chip properly bypassed with a capacitor directly across its power and
ground pins?  Do you have some crosstalk from a signal line to a clock line?
Try a small (couple of picofarads) cap on that clock line to see if the excess
clock signals vanish.  Is there a data line very close to the clock line?
Isolate it somehow, maybe by running a grounded trace between the two, or by
physically moving the traces apart.
    Also check your ground connection to the chip- if it is not very good, you
may still get the chip to operate, but only marginally.  And finally, try a
small ferrite bead on the ground line  close to the chip.

Cheers!

Chip Shults
My robotics, space and CGI web page - http://home.cfl.rr.com/aichip




Article: 43771
Subject: Re: CMOS camera
From: kayrock66@yahoo.com (Jay)
Date: 1 Jun 2002 22:30:42 -0700
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If your talking about interfacing a CMOS imager itself then yes, that
would be pretty straight forward for someone already skilled in using
programmable logic.  Imagers built with this technology (as opposed to
CCD) interface easily to digital circuits and generally require no
external analog references.

"Roger King" <roger@king.com> wrote in message news:<iz4K8.173716$t8_.157445@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> I want to try to interface a digital CMOS camera with a computer. Anyone
> thinks this is possible by using an FPGA chip from the Max 7000 Series? For
> example. The CMOS camera will be connected to the FPGA then into the
> microcontroller or computer? I don't know where to start!
> 
> I would appreciate your responses. Thank you.

Article: 43772
Subject: Re: Looking for FPGA board with USB interface
From: Johann Glaser <Johann.Glaser@gmx.at>
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 10:45:24 +0200
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Hi!

Look at the CESYS X2S_USB Board at
  http://www.cesys.de/
They use a Cypress EZ-USB chip for USB communication.

If you need Linux download drivers visit
https://sourceforge.net/projects/x2susbsfwkit/ (which is actually not
usefull) or contact me for the files.

Bye
  Hansi

Article: 43773
Subject: Re: Clock double trigger problem
From: "Falk Brunner" <Falk.Brunner@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 11:48:28 +0200
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"jetmarc" <jetmarc@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af3f5bb5.0206011953.44d7423a@posting.google.com...

> Obviously the CompactFlash card has taken a few of
> the read cycles for two (double-clocked on the falling
> /OE edge), so that its internal address has reached
> the end while my FPGA was still reading more data.

How do you generate the /OE signal? is this signal directly comming from a
FlipFlop or logic gates.
If it comes from logic gates (a decoder), then it will most probably have
some glitches.
As the other guy already mentioned, good bypassing is also vital.

--
MfG
Falk





Article: 43774
Subject: Re: place and route simulation time
From: allan_herriman.hates.spam@agilent.com (Allan Herriman)
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2002 14:03:19 GMT
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2002 17:18:03 +0000 (UTC), nweaver@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
(Nicholas Weaver) wrote:

>In article <3cf8fc35.13519329@netnews.agilent.com>,
>Allan Herriman <allan_herriman.hates.spam@agilent.com> wrote:
>>>Ray Andraka proposed to do post-mapping simulation to veryfy the sythesis
>>>result, since a post-maping is (much?) faster than post P&R.
>>
>>Why is it faster?  The simprim blocks take most of the simulation
>>time, and these will be the same post map and post PAR.
>>(Note that you *don't* have to load the SDF if you are doing a post
>>PAR functional simulation.)
>
>I think because you end up ignoring all the timing info (which ends up
>being pretty substantial post-routing.

I thought it was possible to ignore all timing in the post-PAR VHDL.
You don't have to load the SDF and (in Modelsim) you can use the
+notimingchecks command line option to turn off the VITAL timing.

I haven't ever done a post-map sim to know if there's a difference or
not.  Does anyone have any quantitative results?

Allan.



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